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mitchell55

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Posted - 04 December 2010 :  03:07:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have an ancestor John Dalziel, from Kirkmichael, Dumfries who was married in Geelong, Australia in 1855,having arrived in Australia the year before. His occupation was listed as either planter or sugar planter on his marriage certificate and also his daughter's birth certificate. Sugar is certainly not grown in Geelong. John is not listed in the Scottish census for 1841 or 1851 so presumably he was off planting sugar somewhere at that time. Was there a link between Scotland and a particular sugar growing area? Any suggestions?? Sue.

Chisholm

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Posted - 04 December 2010 :  19:55:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Plenty of sugar growing in the various parts of the West Indies. I dont know too much about other Border names associated with the sugar industry, but Chisholme was certainly one.James Chisholme renamed his property at Hobsburn, formerly part of the Eliot of Stobs estate, as Greenriver, to remember his Jamaican plantation. This was all late 1700's early 1800's, but other Chisholmes continued after this family in the plantatations of the West Indies. So there may have been other Scots families involved as well, and John Dalziel could have worked for any number of them or English plantation owners..or could have worked on his own account. There is a Jamaica search website which may help. Sugar was probably only profitable because of slavery, and after the abolition of slavery it may have gradually become unsustainable,hence your man Dalziel looking for something new
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Harry D. Watson

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Posted - 04 December 2010 :  21:41:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apart from Scots going out to the West Indies to grow sugar, the town of Greenock in Renfrewshire was a sugar-refining centre:

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The Sugar Warehouse dominates the James Watt Dock
Sugar refining began in Greenock in 1765.[5] John Walker began a sugar refinery in Greenock in 1850 followed by the prominent local cooper and shipowner Abram Lyle who, with four partners, purchased the Glebe Sugar Refinery in 1865. Another 12 refineries were active at one point. The most famous of these (and successful, being the only survivor until August 1997) was Tate & Lyle. It was formed from a merger in 1921 between Abram Lyle, who had expanded into Plaistow, and Henry Tate, who had set up a sugar refinery in Liverpool and had expanded into London.
By the end of the 19th century, around 400 ships a year were transporting sugar from Caribbean holdings to Greenock for processing. There were 14 sugar refineries, including The Westburn, Walkers, The Glebe, Lochore and Ferguson and Dempster, plus a sugar beet factory on Ingleston Street. Tobacco from the Americas also arrived here.
When Tate and Lyle finally closed its Greenock refinery in 1997 it brought to an end the town's 150-year old connections with sugar manufacture. A newly built sugar warehouse continued shipping operations at Greenock's Ocean Terminal. The former sugar warehouse at the James Watt Dock was by then scheduled as a category A listed building as a fine example of early industrial architecture, with an unusual feature of a colonnade of cast iron columns forming a sheltered unloading area next to the quayside. This building has since lain empty, with various schemes being proposed for conversion and restoration. The photographs show the building still intact in February 2006, but a fire on the evening of 12 June 2006 caused severe damage to much of the building before being brought under control in the early hours of 13 June. The local council confirmed that parts of the building will have to be taken down to ensure public safety, but promised an investigation and emphasised the importance of this world heritage building.[6]
Fortunately in 2007, contracts to develop the sugar refinery into housing went ahead and the building is slowly being restored to its grand spectacle along side the ever increasingly developing waterfront of the East end of Greenock! Many new and exciting housing projects combining new environmentally friendly technologies along with historically fashioned architecture are restoring Greenock's Waterfront facia to its once glorious former self.[7]
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